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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    27

    Default Umlaute Problem in manchen EMails und nur auf manchen Systemen

    Komische Angelegenheit und für mich nicht greifbar:

    Es gibt immer mal wieder ein paar E-Mails die unterschiedlich angezeigt werden:

    Es geht um das Wort in ROT: "verspätet".

    Auf dem iPhone und iPad:

    ox_fehler1.jpg

    Und auf dem Webmailer:

    ox_fehler_2.jpg

    Das ist jetzt eine Beispiel-Email. Manchmal kommt auch mal eine von Kunden oder bekannten. Schwer nachzuvollziehen.

  2. #2
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    Mar 2015
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    Noch eine Ergänzung:
    Wenn ich die E-Mails über IMAP abrufe auf dem Handy, habe ich keine Umlaut-Fehler
    Dieselbe E-Mail über Active-Sync: Der oben genannte Umlaut-Fehler tritt auf.

    Irgendwelche Hinweise zu dem Thema?

  3. #3

    Default utf8 on all devices

    Quote Originally Posted by thiel View Post
    Noch eine Ergänzung:
    Wenn ich die E-Mails über IMAP abrufe auf dem Handy, habe ich keine Umlaut-Fehler
    Dieselbe E-Mail über Active-Sync: Der oben genannte Umlaut-Fehler tritt auf.

    Irgendwelche Hinweise zu dem Thema?
    Hi

    Wie sieht die Mail im Source aus ( inkl. header)

    Testweise Mail auf Handy erstellen: Wird diese Mail dann immer korrekt dargestellt?

    Gruß P.M.

  4. #4
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    Mar 2015
    Posts
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    Da sieht man das ganze auch schon.

    Z.B. 34 Tag(e) versp=C3=A4tet

    Hier der komplette Auszug:


    Return-Path: <pm@thiel.ag>
    X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on
    lvps92-51-129-240.dedicated.hosteurope.de
    X-Spam-Level:
    X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE,
    URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0
    X-Original-To: markus@thiel.ag
    Delivered-To: markus@thiel.ag
    Received: from pm.thiel.ag (lvps92-51-129-240.dedicated.hosteurope.de [92.51.129.240])
    by server.thiel.ag (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D3DCB619CB
    for <markus@thiel.ag>; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 06:00:02 +0200 (CEST)
    Message-ID: <1433390402.556fcd42c5e1a@pm.thiel.ag>
    Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 04:00:02 +0000
    Subject: Guten Morgen
    From: "thiel.ag Projektmanagement" <pm@thiel.ag>
    Reply-To: pm@thiel.ag
    To: Markus Thiel <markus@thiel.ag>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
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    boundary="_=_swift_v4_1433390402556fcd42c8e8f_=_"
    Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
    Precedence: bulk


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    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    E-Mail-Benachrichtigung

    Hallo Markus,Guten Morgen

    t=
    hiel.ag Projektmanagement

    Heute:

    =
    (Meilenstein) Aktion: Kostenloser Mailaccount [http://pm.thiel.ag/p=
    ublic/index.php?path_info=3Dprojects%2Fmaildrivede%2Fmil estones%2F543]=


    34 Tag(e) versp=C3=A4tet

    =
    (Meilenstein) Start [http://pm.thiel.ag/public/index.ph=
    p?path_info=3Dprojects%2Fmaildrivede%2Fmilestones% 2F540]

    =
    34 Tag(e) versp=C3=A4tet

    =
    (Meilenstein) Testphase [http://pm.thiel.ag/public/index.php?path_info=3Dp=
    rojects%2Fmaildrivede%2Fmilestones%2F542]

    =
    48 Tag(e) versp=C3=A4tet

    (Meilenstein) In=
    stallation [http://pm.thiel.ag/public/index.php?...rojects%2Fmai=
    ldrivede%2Fmilestones%2F541]

    69 Tag(e) ve=
    rsp=C3=A4tet

    Diese Benachrichtigungen nicht mehr erhalten [ht=
    tp://pm.thiel.ag/public/index.php?path_info=3Dpublic%2Fnotifications%2Funs =
    ubscribe&code=3DMRNGPPR-1-EKRKXLX9RO]

    (c)2015 by thiel.ag

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    content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><meta name="viewport"
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    table[id=mainTable], td[id=mainContent]{ width: auto !important;
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    table[id=mainTable], td[id=mainContent]{ width: auto !important;
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    td[id=mainContent]{ padding: 20px 5px !important;}
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    <![endif]--></head><body><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
    border="0" id="backgroundTable" width="100%" style="font-family: Lucida
    Grande, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background: #ebebeb;"
    align="center"><tr><td style="padding:40px 20px;" cellpadding="0"
    cellspacing="0" id="mainContent" align="center"><table width="654"
    cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" align="center" id="mainTable"
    style="width: 654px; margin: 0 auto; border-spacing: 0;
    border-collapse:separate; border:1px solid #d0d2c9; border-radius: 20px;
    text-align:left;"><tr><td id="content" style="background-color:#ffffff;
    padding: 25px; border-top-left-radius: 20px; border-top-right-radius:
    20px;"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="font-family:
    Lucida Grande, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-size:12px;"><tr><td><table style="font-family: Lucida Grande, Verdana,
    Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><tr><td width="600" id="greetings"><div
    style="padding-bottom:15px;">Hallo Markus,</div><div style="font-size:28px;
    line-height:28px; padding-bottom:15px;">Guten Morgen</div></td><td
    width="100" style="text-align: center; width: 100px; padding-bottom:15px;"
    class="branding"><img
    src="http://pm.thiel.ag/public/brand/logo.80x80.png?timestamp=1427279220"
    alt="Logo"><br><span style="font-size:14px; padding: 0 0 10px 0;">thiel.ag
    Projektmanagement</span></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">


    <p>Heute:</p>

    <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%">
    <tr>
    <td style="font-size: 11px;">
    <span style="color: #b05ecb; text-transform:
    uppercase">(Meilenstein)</span> <a
    href="http://pm.thiel.ag/public/index.php?path_info=projects%2Fmaildrivede%2Fmiles tones%2F543"
    style="color: #000000; text-decoration: underline;">Aktion: Kostenloser
    Mailaccount</a>
    </td>
    <td style="font-size: 11px; color: red;" align="right" width="100">
    34 Tag(e) verspätet
    </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="font-size: 11px;">
    <span style="color: #b05ecb; text-transform:
    uppercase">(Meilenstein)</span> <a
    href="http://pm.thiel.ag/public/index.php?path_info=projects%2Fmaildrivede%2Fmiles tones%2F540"
    style="color: #000000; text-decoration: underline;">Start</a>
    </td>
    <td style="font-size: 11px; color: red;" align="right" width="100">
    34 Tag(e) verspätet
    </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="font-size: 11px;">
    <span style="color: #b05ecb; text-transform:
    uppercase">(Meilenstein)</span> <a
    href="http://pm.thiel.ag/public/index.php?path_info=projects%2Fmaildrivede%2Fmiles tones%2F542"
    style="color: #000000; text-decoration: underline;">Testphase</a>
    </td>
    <td style="font-size: 11px; color: red;" align="right" width="100">
    48 Tag(e) verspätet
    </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="font-size: 11px;">
    <span style="color: #b05ecb; text-transform:
    uppercase">(Meilenstein)</span> <a
    href="http://pm.thiel.ag/public/index.php?path_info=projects%2Fmaildrivede%2Fmiles tones%2F541"
    style="color: #000000; text-decoration: underline;">Installation</a>
    </td>
    <td style="font-size: 11px; color: red;" align="right" width="100">
    69 Tag(e) verspätet
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>

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    style="background-color:#ffffff; padding: 25px; border-bottom-left-radius:
    20px; border-bottom-right-radius: 20px;"></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td
    style="text-align: center; padding: 5px 0; font-size: 11px;"><a
    href="http://pm.thiel.ag/public/index.php?path_info=public%2Fnotifications%2Funsub scribe&amp;code=MRNGPPR-1-EKRKXLX9RO"
    style="color: #000000; text-decoration: underline;">Diese Benachrichtigungen
    nicht mehr erhalten</a></td></tr><tr><td style="text-align: center; padding:
    5px 0 20px 0; font-size: 11px;">&copy;2015 by
    thiel.ag</td></tr></table></body></html>

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  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    27

    Default

    Ich habe auch eine Test-Email mal vom Gerät versendet, an mich selbst, extern Google und einen ganz anderen OX Server. Wenn über das Mobile Gerät abgerufen passt es soweit, allerdings sieht es für mich identisch aus zur E-mail mit Fehlern:

    Return-Path: <xxx@gmail.com>
    X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on
    xxx.dedicated.hosteurope.de
    X-Spam-Level:
    X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=7.0 tests=FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,
    FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,
    T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0
    X-Original-To: thiel@xxx.de
    Delivered-To: thiel@xxx.de
    Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178])
    by webmail.tma-pure.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4709520487
    for <thiel@tma-pure.de>; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:39:14 +0200 (CEST)
    Received: by wiga1 with SMTP id a1so14694142wig.0
    for <thiel@xxx.de>; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 02:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
    DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
    d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
    h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject
    :message-id:date:to;
    bh=+oRA5wF6ZQkkrGtDsb8osE415xuKCsX0zBAzBlQm08Q=;
    b=B/5nJEclEPBBxh8f59X2Q90mbdx7Pz2aXh3MyODG3cnqsbFbGEtQ SIAvjzUYWwnIyk
    qBcAGBQWbnXlg+ShBsd+/Zk7Dpoj9MlqnZAZynUYFDW/f+QTObhgTCZKAklCGfAfRFY3
    Vx/QxCB9GHM4fqPwaqWfb5rpyNfCMKuJAUc6SHXP9YaJlRglfypJV BYV5IwHMTPkBOtk
    3gltn/QKMlqwUIPU+jRoMxpuvQzXsZpnV3v4wfEx8a35XGU12O6+N0VG ogHKQ0wOeCHT
    HTee/BNrz1TCAbccFx9htvRktDutxmSMwHZnXzddQdDgNV2QJjski0C bvjlSpZTMKsW+
    XE4g==
    X-Received: by 10.195.13.113 with SMTP id ex17mr4744779wjd.17.1433497153824;
    Fri, 05 Jun 2015 02:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
    Received: from ?IPv6:2a02:8071:a88:7d00:99c9:40bc:eb1e:2206? ([2a02:8071:a88:7d00:99c9:40bc:eb1e:2206])
    by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n1sm2423706wix.0.2015.06.05.02.39.11
    (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128);
    Fri, 05 Jun 2015 02:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Markus Thiel <xxx@gmail.com>
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset=utf-8
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0)
    Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Test_aufr=C3=A4umen?=
    Message-Id: <200DED2D-E55D-4641-889B-C6CEC18FF354@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:39:41 +0200
    To: thiel <thiel@tma-pure.de>, Thiel Markus <markus@xxx>,
    "xxx" <xxx@googlemail.com>
    X-Mailer: iPad Mail (12F69)

    Aufr=C3=A4umen mit =C3=B6 und =C3=BCmlauten
    Last edited by thiel; 06-05-2015 at 11:44 AM.

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